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interesting article about a school that promotes the idea of letting students fail to help them build the character necessary to succeed. What do you think? What is the overall character of the students who graduate from this school? How do we prepare students to fail so they can succeed? Would Randolph and Levin's plan work here?
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If the secret to success is failure I completely get that. No one ever succeeds on their first time trying, most people have to do a trial and error. After the trial and error you can fix what went wrong and try to succeed the next time.
i completely agree with this schools way of teaching. I think that would work the best way insteadof teaching you and expecting you to know exactly how and what to do. See no they should want you to fail and know the whole thing insdie and out that would truley help you later in life. i think all schools should be like that. maybe you would see a change in students now days.
I truly do like the way this schools teaching method is its different its better. Thought many adults and teacher would disagree I must say that small rewards and showing people why they failed is easier on students. If school is easier on students they fell less threatened by their teachers and what they are learning. If a student is unsure of how to do something they need that extra bounce to bring them back from their failure.
I do agree with this schools teaching method. It is very smart because instead of rewarding them for little things that don't matter, they let them fail and learn from it, which happens in the real world and kids should start learning now. Kids now expect teachers to reward them if they do something right and then scold them for doing it wrong, and they don't care. If the teacher expects them to fail, the student would want to have better expectations from the teacher, so they do better at their work. Some ways to have kids fail at what they are doing and yet make them succeed is to have hard homework, but not all at once. What I'm saying is make the assignments hard, but don't make them do a lot at once, otherwise they will rush to do it and not do as well and won't care as much. Over all I think this school is making a good choice at what they are doing.
I think the secret to success is failure. We have all hopefully learned from our failures. I think schools should teach or at least try this method because my opinion is, "Students don't like to fail." If something is assigned and a student fails, he/she will most likely push him/her self to do better the next time. I think that this school's plan will work. Students don't really care to be taught by teachers; but if they try something and fail at it, they will be more appt to do it again and do it the right way. The overall character of students who graduate is that they really don't know what to expect, because all they were taught were how to do something. They need to be able to put all the knowledge into perspective in their life and fail, and then learn for the future.
I actaully like the way they do it there. Our school here doesn't really do anything about punishment or anything. We only get points or a saturday school or even "Don't do it again" speech. We honetly don't care about that. Some students do and some students dont. You can't always do what you want to do. I personally think that we should just leave the little things in life. We should focus more on the bigger things in life. What are you going to do when you get in trouble in real life? Run to mommy and daddy? Not always that your mom and dad are going to be there for you. yeah its ok to have a little help in the real world. If the secret to success is failure that is great. No one makes it through the first year in the real world. Not unless your a famous actor/actress. No one is perfect, so make the best of your life until you get to the real world. Take it slow and not fast!
I strongly disagree with this article, I don't think you should punish failure especially. Kids know what failure is at a very young age, it is the job of the parents to teach them about that. They will learn that once they make a mistake, their parents might not let them do the same thing again. Children will also learn about failure on the playground, young kids can be very rude and mean to other kids, where failing can mean that they wear the wrong clothes, or their hair isn't pretty enough. This is also a type of failure that will prepare them for the rest of their lives. And I agree that kids should be prepared for that, but by focusing on failure you might only get the opposite effect. When the focus lies on doing the right thing, students will get the attention when they do the right thing and try to do that. Once you start focusing on failure, children might fail because that is the (negative) attention they will get, and that might be the only attention they get. I do believe children should be prepared for different stages in their lives, but failing should not be brought into that life at a pre-kindergarten age, I would rather learn about that a little later. In the end everyone will have to fail to see things aren't working the way they were before anymore. But I would rather have that moment of realization when I am a young-adult than when I am not even in kindergarten yet.
Trail and error play a huge part in every one's daily life. I believe if we fail then we'll be more likely to learn from our mistakes and succeed in life. Randolph and Levin's plan would work great here for some kids; if a kid gets a bad grade or a teacher is harder on them, they'll most likely try harder to get what they want instead of doing the minimal work possible. This is a great idea and everyone should atleast try it. Failing students to prepare and help them succeed doesn't sound as easy as you think. There are endless possibilities and outcomes to this project; some people actually care and will try harder to succeed, but some people won't care and won't try. Some people are raised with no expectations from their parents or from themselves, but some are raised with the highest expectations, like to graduate as validvictorian or to get the most scholarships. What I am saying is that it depends who you are trying it on.
I totally agree with this schools way of teaching. I believe that if someone fails, they are most likely to work harder the next time that they do it over. For some people working harder is not an option, because they could care less to even be at school. For those you care about school and want to go to college, but may not be the smartest, this could be the clue to success for them. This could majorly help, because it will show that they need to work that much harder. It will also help them for when they get to college, because they help on every homework assignment that they may have.
This is just what a school like ours needs. Tangible grades that evaluate and allow growth in character.
A program like this is a great opportunity to allow for career success instead of just academic success. Many kids in our school are well-prepared for career life, but not necessarily for college life, and that should have recognition too. This also lets kids foster and develop those skills.
The only problems I can see developing with this kind of program are: 1. Bias in reporting and 2. parents being offended by low grades.
The best part of this is the logic that goes with it. When kids get a referral or other such punishment for "bad character", in most cases they decide that it is the teacher's wrong that resulted in punishment, and not their own. A system like this would help squelch that.
I really like the idea of this program, as long as it is implemented correctly. I believe it can help kids be successful in career life as well as school life.
I do agree with the way the school promotes the idea. To be successful you have to have failed sometime and get back up on your feet and try again. That way when you have succeeded and are on top, your head doesn't get too big and you remember the times when you were at the bottom. If you have never failed then you have never had to pull yourself back up. The overall character of these students would be positive because they know how to handle when they fail and when they succeed. When you prepare to fail, you already have the mind to keep your head up and try again.
thats just like being a little kid you have to let them fail so that they can fix what they did wrong let them fall so they can be strong enough to get up next time by themselves cause if you keep helping them someday there gonna fall and not be able to get up and fix it again so you have to fail in school in order to think how your gonna fix it and make things batter next time if your teachers always help you out your not gonna be able to do certain things on your own so you need to do it yourself mabey your good enough to do it right the first time but i havent always been that way but i pick myself up and keep going.
Their is alot of people that have failed many times in the past. look at abe he failed how many times before he was ever a senetor or even made president. failure is the sometimes the key to make a successful future out of yourself and the others around you. the lessons you will learn will more then likely benitfit your future more then you think
I don't think that failing is always the key to success. There are several things it takes to succeed. First of all, one must be hard working and want to do well. Some people can learn from their mistakes and suceed the next time, but there will always be people who don't learn from what they do wrong. I do think that those who fail appreciate success more than those who have never failed and just had sucess given to them. Although failing might not be the only key to success, I do agree that it plays a large part in succeeding. When you do something wrong you are more appt to do it again, but this time do it the right way.
I think that the secret to success is failure because the best way to learn is from your own mistakes. Knowledge and wisdom is only gained through experience. If someone was to fail, chances are they will learn to not repeat their mistakes because they don't like failure. On the other hand, some people are slow learners and it will take more times for them to fail before they learn not to. Anyone can learn from their mistakes if they want to, and if they don't then maybe they don't want to change and are afraid to be successful. Personally I learn more from my own mistakes than I do anything else. No class could ever teach me the life lessons that I've gained through experience and failure.
I would completely agree with the fact that the secret to success is failure because I have gained a lot of success through failure and it does not surprise me one bit that that is what the secret to success is. During my sports careers, I have learned that you cannot always succeed at everything you do and there is always going to be that one time you fail and it is going to really upset you, but you have to learn how to push through and see what you can do differently for the next time to succeed. However, there are sometimes when it takes more than one time at failing at something to gain success at it because that has definitely happened to me a few times before.
By failing a time or two in life, today's youth is taught the importance of getting back up and trying again. This school is exactly on track with their thinking. In real life, you are not given tests every few weeks to assess your progress; you are just expected to do it right the first time. Small rewards are always welcome, but they are often times unlikely upon entrance into the workforce. schools need to teach students life skills and how to cope with failure, that way, once we get into the real world, we are not taken completely by surprise.
If school is easier on students they fell less threatened by their teachers and what they are learning. If a student is unsure of how to do something they need that extra bounce to bring them back from their failure.
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